Timetec16GB DDR4 3600MHz PC4-28800 CL18 1.35V Non-ECC Unbuffered Dual Rank Designed for Gaming and Graphic Compatible with AMD and Intel Desktop PC Computer Memory RAM Module Upgrade (16GB)
T**T
Very, Very Weird RAM Experience
Note: this is an update to my previously positive review.ON THE SURFACE, IT SEEMED GOODI bought this 64 GB Timetec “Ryzen compatible” kit that is marketed at 3600mhz for my new 3950x build and I was able to tighten the timings down to 16-18-18-36 at “stock” voltage. I even ran memtest86 on that thing and it appeared to be stable for the entire hour I tested it.THIS IS WHERE THINGS GOT WEIRDSo the RAM was all setup and appeared to be running great. The obvious next step was to bench the new system I just built. Every bench I did showed that my GPU, CPU, and NVMe SSD were all performing way below average (I’m talking like bottom 3%). I was pretty crushed to see such bad scores from my new system and tried everything in the book to improve them. I made sure the power settings were open throttle, checked the BIOS settings and made tweaks, improved the cooling to the point that my system was able to idle in the upper 20s and bench in the mid 50s, changed out my graphics card - I even got a higher-end mobo. Even with all of those boxes checked, I could barely squeeze out an average bench with max overclocks across the board.MY SUPER LUCKY ACCIDENTAL DISCOVERYOne day, I was tweaking BIOS settings, needed to reset the BIOS, and was [unknowingly] lucky enough to forget to re-enable the XMP profile or manually punch in the timings. I happened to be making yet another attempt to improve my benchmark scores at this time. With the motherboard defaulted to 2400mhz, all of my hardware appeared to magically score way over average for the first time since I put the system together, but the RAM, which previously was the only thing that benched above average was suddenly way under. When I looked closer I noticed it was running @2400mhz. Thinking my tweaks were why the performance was so good, I rebooted into BIOS and set the XMP profile to active, logged back into Windows, and boom! Same crap benchmarks for the CPU, GPU (which happens to be a 2080ti), and even my PCIe 4 NVMe SSD.A LIGHT BULB MOMENTAt this point, it suddenly hit me that the issue had to be the RAM.IT GETS WEIRDERI tired researching this kit further by visiting the Timetec website, but it’s not on there at all. I tried pulling more info on this RAM and it’s specs using various software, but the odd thing was that the manufacturer information always came back as “unknown.” I finally resorted to Google searching the model number that’s printed on the sticker on the front of the RAM. Turns out the only place that exact model number (which is crazy long and unique) actually shows up is on another manufacturer’s website. What was super weird was that this other manufacturer listed an identical looking kit at 1.2volts with a 2666mhz clock speed. However, I wasn’t able to find a single trace of this ever having been sold by said manufacturer on the web. Suspecting that this is actually an overvolted and massively overclocked kit that was rebranded, I tried a 2666mhz clock with tighter timings and managed to get optimal performance out of all of my hardware for the first time since building my system (yes - including the RAM)!THE FINAL LITMUS TESTI bought a more expensive, 64GB 3600mhz Kit from a well known manufacturer, stuck it in my mobo, enabled XMP, and with out-of-box BIOS settings, my system benched way over average. In fact, I scored almost 15 points higher at stock settings with legitimate 3600mhz memory installed than I did with overclocking galore and the Timetec kit. Problem solved!WHAT I THINK HAPPENEDI think this memory was meant to be run at 2666mhz with a 1.2v power settings and probably somewhere around 16-18-18-36 for timing. It performs exactly as expected at this frequency without impacting overall system performance. When run on a Ryzen 3rd gen system at a much higher frequency with higher power settings, my best guess is that the Zen 2 infinity fabric has to ramp up dramatically to prevent system instability (which, as a side note, it does fantastically well). All of the extra draw on the system to maintain stability at 3600mhz essentially brings down the performance of everything else.FINAL THOUGHTSIf what I suspect is true and this really is a kit that was intended to be run at 2666mhz, the value proposition of this product goes down substantially. There’s plenty of 2666mhz RAM out there in this price range that can be overclocked and overvolted and if I had wanted to buy 2666mhz RAM and overclock it, I would have bought memory that was listed at that speed and price shopped accordingly. While this kit definitely did hit advertised speeds, it also degraded the performance of my entire system and cost me many hours of time trying to overcome what I thought was the worst role of dice in silicone lottery history. For all of these reasons, plus what I see as near-certain dishonesty, I am lowering my previous 5 star review to a single star.
A**0
Timetec...functionality over bling
After upgrading my primary computer to a Ryzen 5-3600x, I decided to build an entertainment PC with the spare parts. This 32 GB kit was specifically ordered for that build. I decided to first test it in the primary computer, since I didn't know when I'd get around to assembly. Was I ever surprised. It is stable and quick...so much so, that it is staying right where it is. It runs 'rock' stable at CAS 15, 19, 19, 19, 36. That is very impressive for a mere $119 (32GB) kit.I actually like the look and uniformity of the black PC board.I tested it for 20 hours with Memtest86+.... not a single error. It has now been a few weeks on and still haven't had any.I didn't need fancy RGB lighting. My case doesn't have a clear side window. I also had a new pair of VANTEC heat spreaders that have been laying around for years doing nothing. This was just the perfect offering I needed. I couldn't be happier. Timetec's Customer Service was equally impressive as well. Somebody actually picks up the telephone. They got right back to me in very short order on a question I had.
T**J
Amazing Value
This 3600 Mhz kit works flawlessly for me. It uses a specific IC that is known to work well with Ryzen. This is important since Ryzen is a bit more selective when it comes to memory and overclocking. These will tighten to 3600Mhz CL16 @1T given the right CPU and motherboard combo.Without getting into the details, it appears the most of the one star reviews don't understand memory "binning" and/or memory overclocking with Ryzen specifically. Yes, the stock JDEC (industry standard) speeds are 2400Mhz at 1.2v. You need to either manually set speeds, timeings and voltage or enable XMP for kits rated above JDEC speeds. At about 3600Mhz and higher for Ryzen, the memory clock speed and Infinity Fabric clocks can "de-couple". This will actually hurt performance unless the memory clock is pushed (roughly around 4200Mhz) to overcome this. If you're suddenly not getting the performance you expect, check this! This can be adjusted on 3000 series and above Ryzen CPUs. I've had it happen myself. Older Ryzen CPUs cannot decouple, so you're stuck at what the CPUs memory controller can handle.Your results will vary depending on the "silicon lottery" and motherboard compatibility. However kits rated at speeds should reach them provided no underlying issues. Higher end CPUs and motherboards will generally do better then value oriented ones. More memory is harder to overclock then less. Etc, etc.
F**4
Amazing value! The 2x16 kit is using Hynix C-Die
Without changing voltages I was able to get the timing tuned to 16-20-20-36 @ 1T. It's stable after running memtest86 as well. Though I only did one pass instead of 4. This was used on Asus X299 Sage w/ i9-9920x. I suspect that this can go beyond 3600Mhz but I will not try that as that would require voltage increase. Perhaps later down the line I will try this. But this is incredible value of stable.Will update. For now they are 5 stars.
C**N
ddr4 che fanno i muscoli...
installate su una msi z490-a pro, cpu i7-10700k, senza nessuna configurazione nel bios, subito riconosciute dal sistema, portate a picchi di 4300mhz senza riscontrare problemi o instabilità al s.o., be vediamo la durata...
B**N
Nur 1 x 16GB Stick geliefert
Nur 1 x 16GB Stick geliefert
E**O
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